Pajamas Media digs deeper:
Well, the original Times report gives us only the sketchiest account. But now we have a video of a complete Khalidi lecture from June 2007. It is quite an eye-opener.
Viewers curious about the views of the man whom in 2003 Obama gave a "warm embrace" (physically or verbally?) should skip to the fifty-minute mark on the video tape. You see, Khalidi tells us, the U.S. is repeating the same error of the Cold War in pursuing its war against Islamic terrorists. According to Khalidi it is the same "blind, foolish, reductionism." And the U.S. policy is designed according to Khalidi to "get Palestinians to destroy one another." And on it goes.
His view of Israel? It is worse than "apartheid." Continue to the end of the tape when he is asked about the massive Israeli media conspiracy headed by none other than Mortimer Zuckerman. He doesn't quite buy into that, but his description of American Jews who control the money and votes to manipulate Congress sounds an awful lot like Mearsheimer and Walt’s “The Israeli Lobby.” Or General Tony McPeak for that matter.
So it would be very interesting to see precisely what Khalidi said in Obama's presence four years earlier. Was the rhetoric above the sort of language which preceded the warm words of praise from Barack Obama? The specifics matter, the context is crucial.
Fox News Channel caught up with Khalidi, and like Bill Ayers, Bernardidne Dohrn, the sellers of the Obama mansion, the Columbia professor won't talk to the media.
Another Obama coincidence.
Related post:
Obama and Khalidi and a videotape the LA Times refuses to release
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You didn't answer the question in an earlier comment marathon man. Why shouldn't those of you that boohoo obama's relationship to khalidi be considered hypocrites for not equally bashing McSame for appropriating $448,000 and change to the same khalidi. That is the definition of hypocracy.
ReplyDeleteSo let's hear it, where is your outrage for McBush's association with khalidi?
Anon...
ReplyDeleteFunny name, Anon.
Do you know what that McCain appropriation was used for?
It's a diversion John.
Ignore it.
Why shouldn't those of you that boohoo obama's relationship to khalidi be considered hypocrites for not equally bashing McSame for appropriating $448,000 and change to the same khalidi. That is the definition
ReplyDeleteBecause this Daily Kos talking point is not true.
Let me be pefectly clear about this. . .as I ahave said . . . Time and Again . . .these distarctions . . .I can no more zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..
Not getting the right amount of vitamins there are you Sparky?
Here Cupcake! You'll love this one:
http://hickeysite.blogspot.com/2008/10/obama-coup-voter-suppression-racism.html
Mr. Greybeard,
ReplyDeleteThat is likewise a funny name. Thank you.
Do you still insist that mclame has no tie to khalidi? Before you answer, please try this newfangled thing called Google - use this search string: "mccain khalidi site:iri.org"
Since you're not hypocrites, we await your similar rants against mcbush.
pathickey,
ReplyDeleteI understand why you would want to call a valid point proving your point as either dishonest, or hypocritical, as not true.
There are those on all sides that lap up the talking points form their cheerleaders willingly, with no apparent attempt to find the actual truth.
If you just take the time to google for mclame and khalidi on mcbush's iri.org site, you'll find that he has appropriated some money to khalidi's group. Furthermore, you can find out how much by acquiring the actual tax returns that indicate the amount. A liberal has done so and found the amount to be 448k. They refer to a scanned tax return from iri. I have little doubt you don't trust that. SO be it.
Fact is, your man mclame is associated with khalidi. Funded his efforts even. YOu can live in an alternate reality, but that won't change the truth in the real reality.
Wow, looks like we have some Socialist Squirrel here who need to be grabbed by the tail and played with for a time, then given the old heave ho and thrown back with the rest of the Obama luv'n nuts!
ReplyDeleteAnonymous=paid Obama staff?
Me thinks so!
. . .But his a polite little Chipmunk! Yes, he is ever so much a polite little Acorn muncher!
ReplyDeleteThat's right. I'm a squirrel, paid by obama himself. And before you get there, yes, I think he is the messiah hisself.
ReplyDeleteNow that off-topic banter should be out of your system now. Why not address the subject. By now you've surely researched from IRI itslef to know the truth. What are you're choices now that you know the truth. Seems to me you can
-continue ranting about the khalidi thing and fulfill your inner hypocrit.
-retract your statements and admit that either khalidi is not the werewolf you made him out to be, or that a lovegift of $448K indicates no association
-ignore reality and move on to some other winger talking point.
I await my check from hyde park, I get paid by the line :)
Since Sen. McCain is in bed with this guy also it would seem you all are spouting off about a whole lot of nothing.I voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004 but I'm voting Obama this year.Republicans had their chance and now it's time for the other party to have their chance.
ReplyDeleteThe lack of wit, depth of thought and testosterone rings familiar. . . could it be? Naw.
ReplyDeletepathickey,
ReplyDeleteYour silence on the subject rings familiar. You are good at ridicule though, so, you got that goin' for ya.
Gotta be RobN!
ReplyDeleteYour silence on the subject rings familiar still. And now your paranoia too.
ReplyDeleteI've not posted here before. The little playground I had at the conservative newspaper in my hometown dried up. It had a mix of conservatives and liberals. Quite a nasty place at times. But the paper changed the format and most bolted.
I'm looking for a place to try to understand your side. I've only rarely commented on blogs. Thought it would be good to drop in on a conservative midwestern blog (I'm near St. Louis) to try to understand.
I'm trying to understand why you guys belabor this khalidi issue when it has more potential for embarrassing mccain than your opponent. Maybe there's a reason that mccain's original handlers didn't make anything of it earlier in the year.
Of course this is all being brought up last minute. October surprise? Sure it is. Raise questions with no time for honest disucssion.
If that's what you guys stand for, then, well that is sad and says a lot. I know there are similarly political shenanigans on the left, but over the last rovian years, the right has perfected political slime.
ANyway, do you now admit that mclame is just as connected to khalidi?
Oh boy, thanks GB and Pat for joining in.
ReplyDeleteAs for "anon," I see you are utilizing the "Axelrod of Evil's" astroturfing strategy.
Please patronize the advertisers.
Reading comprehension...
ReplyDeleteMy first (and unanswered) question to anymouse was:
Do you know that that McCain appropriation was used for?
That question obviously scares trolls.
You didn't answer the question in an earlier comment marathon man. Why shouldn't those of you that boohoo obama's relationship to khalidi be considered hypocrites for not equally bashing McSame for appropriating $448,000 and change to the same khalidi. That is the definition of hypocracy.
ReplyDeleteKhalidi never babysat Obama's kids.
McCain never toasted Khalidi in the presence of Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn.
john ruberry,
ReplyDeleteDon't know what your axelrod thingy is. I happen to be using the NT definition of hypocracy. Look it up, it's a pretty simple concept.
You set a standard for obama, that you're not willing to set for mclame. THat's hypocracy.
Like I said here or at the other winger blog today (gatewaypundit), I am trolling. But you know, I've got a good point. It's not sufficient to ignore the point, and think your argument holds any water by namecalling.
OK, I am trolling, if by troll you mean providing contrary viewpoint to the established viewpoint of your blog. But that definition is short a necessary component. To truly be a troll I should just be offering quick little, meaningless comments that are jabs and cheap. Sort of like most of what has been sent my way.
greybeard,
ReplyDeleteFunny in your first post you apparently take issue with me using an anonymous name. Hope you're happy now. I got myself a good and proper real name -- just like yours.
No, I do not know what all the money was used for. Apparently some was used for polling. But $448,000 is an aweful lot o' cash just for polling. Please share how Khalidi used the gift from mclame in his 'terrorist' organization.
Keep in mind, the corner in which you've backed, or at least most wingers have, is that you want to demonize khalidi when associated with obama, but choose to overlook a cashmoney connection between khalidi and mcsame. You can't have it both ways.
Save us some time here and admit the truth. Khalidi is not a terrorist. ANd there is no news at all to either obama's or mcbush's connections to him.
From Wikipedia:
ReplyDeleteAstroturfing in American English is a neologism for formal public relations campaigns in politics and advertising which seek to create the impression of being spontaneous "grassroots" behavior, hence the reference to the artificial grass, AstroTurf.
The goal of such a campaign is to disguise the efforts of a political or commercial entity as an independent public reaction to some political entity—a politician, political group, product, service or event. Astroturfers attempt to orchestrate the actions of apparently diverse and geographically distributed individuals, by both overt ("outreach", "awareness", etc.) and covert (disinformation) means. Astroturfing may be undertaken by an individual pushing a personal agenda or highly organized professional groups with financial backing from large corporations, non-profits, or activist organizations. Very often the efforts are conducted by political consultants who also specialize in opposition research.
Axelrod didn't invent astroturfing--but he perfected it. And I take you at your word that your not part of Axe's army, but I've certainly been part of earlier campaigns, such as my July and August "Drill Here, Drill Now" posts.
However, feel free to drop in again, anicaniflanistan.
My definition of troll is pretty strict. For instance, if you try to see life insurance and the like, then you are troll. Political discourse of all types is welcome. Swearing, sexual innuendo, libelous statements, and racist posts being an exception.
anusinthecan-
ReplyDeleteSo you've actually SEEN the tape?
Great!
Tell us about it!